From: | Ian Jackson <ijackson(at)chiark(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk> |
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To: | "Barak A(dot) Pearlmutter" <bap(at)debian(dot)org> |
Cc: | spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Voting system for elections |
Date: | 2016-08-16 14:18:03 |
Message-ID: | 22451.8347.779785.508843@chiark.greenend.org.uk |
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Barak A. Pearlmutter writes ("Re: Voting system for elections"):
> It seems like a few people seem to find the argument for RRV
> convincing, and no one has objected.
I feel the need to repost here, an article I posted to spi-private on
the 4th of August:
From: Ian Jackson <ijackson(at)chiark(dot)greenend(dot)org(dot)uk>
To:
Cc: spi-private(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Subject: Re: [Spi-private] SPI board election method, reanalysis of 2016
election
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 02:15:57 +0100
[ Someone wrote asking for a: ]
> [ detailed set of analysis criteria of multi-winner voting systems ]
[ (quote redacted -iwj 16.8.16) ]
SPI should not be in the business of detailed analysis of voting
systems, let alone the development of novel voting systems. Nor
should SPI adopt a system which is highly unusual.
There is only one multi-winner proportional voting system that makes
sense for SPI [1] and has nontrivial adoption in the world at large.
That system is STV.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation
[1] There are a handful of other common proportional multi-winner
systems, including Additional Member systems, and party list PR, but
they are obviously inappropriate for us.
The right direction for this conversation is a discussion of which
other respected institution's specific set of STV rules (answers to
the edge cases) we should adopt. We would like one which has a clear
description, from an authoritative source.
Ideally we want a variant of which there are already one or more
computerised implementations. (Even if we end up writing our own
computer implementation, an existing program will provide a useful
check and perhaps even come with some test vectors.)
Having done another set of searches I would suggest that we should
adopt Scottish STV. That is, the STV which is used in Scotland to
elect local councils. Here it is laid out in the legislation:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2007/42/schedule/1/part/III/crossheading/counting-of-votes/made
The rules on actual counting are paragraphs 45-52.
I also found this detailed description with examples:
http://www.votingmatters.org.uk/RES/STV-WIGM.pdf
Allegedly this is implemented in OpenVote:
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/openstv
https://github.com/OpenTechStrategies/openstv
(now taken proprietary but the Free version remains available,
including version 1.6 in Debian.)
Thus this system has a clear and authoritative statement of the rules,
and seems to have at least one computerised implementation.
Or we could consider following the lead of the Apache Software
Foundation. They use a Meek variant of STV and their page here
suggests that they have found at least two implemnetations (although
the fact that they've forked one of them isn't encouraging):
https://wiki.apache.org/general/BoardVoting
I haven't found (so far) a clear statement of the rules, in prose.
Wikipedia suggests that New Zealand uses a version of Meek STV (and
that Stack Exchange does too for some purposes), but I'm not sure if
they're the same.
I also found this list of tools:
http://www.accuratedemocracy.com/z_tools.htm
[ irrelevant section from -private deleted -iwj 16.8.16 ]
Ian.
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