Meeting log for 2008-12-17

Contrary to my impression from the announced agenda that it would be a
rather short and disappointing meeting, a load of late business was
added to "Items up for discussion" which made for interesting reading,
including a Privoxy resolution which appeared just before the meeting
(good to have some sight beforehand, but not great) and as many items
of "Any Other Business" as the rest of the meeting combined.

HIGHLIGHTS

[item 1, Opening] <bdale> Welcome to today's Software in the Public
Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order.
Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the
web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2008/2008-12-17.html

[item 2, Roll Call] <Ganneff> Joerg Jaspert
<bdale> Bdale Garbee <cdlu> David Graham <luk_> Luk Claes
<zobel> Martin Zobel-Helas <schultmc> Michael Schultheiss

[item 3, President's Report] <bdale> None.

[item 4, Treasurer's Report]
<schultmc> a treasurer's report covering November 2008 was mailed out
on Monday. There's been some suggestions for improvements that I'm
considering.

[item 5, Secretary's report]
<Ganneff> he has something in the agenda, lets paste
<cdlu> he is away and did not register his attendance

[item 6, Outstanding minutes]
<cdlu> oct 15 yes: 5, no: 0, abstain: 1. passes
<cdlu> [november 2008] yes: 5, no: 0, abstain: 1. passes

[item 7, Items up for discussion]

[item 7.1, Resolution 2008.12.17.bg.1 - Privoxy as associated project]

<bdale> luk_: I think the three folks listed in the resolution are the
three primary commiters. privoxy.org is the web site for the project,
I believe.

<luk_> ah, apparently
http://www.privoxy.org/user-manual/copyright.html has a list of the
current privoxy team

<cdlu> privoxy: yes: 6, no: 0, abstain: 0, missing: 0

<bdale> Do any board members have other items for discussion they
would like to address briefly?

<Ganneff> just the short notice that SPI now owns the madwifi domains

<cdlu> as of Monday I'm no longer with Sourceforge, so if anyone needs
me to work for them, I'm available. :)

<bdale> for everyone else, zobel is offering to help catch us up on
the un-voted minutes

<schultmc> Tux4Kids has expressed interest in obtaining some trademarks.
I (or someone else) needs to discuss this with our lawyers and keep
the Tux4Kids representative up to date with the status.
I'm willing to take the lead.

[item 8, Next board meeting] Wednesday 21st January, 2009 - 20:00 UTC

TIMED LOG

20:05:47 <bdale> *GAVEL*
20:05:47 <bdale> [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order.
20:05:47 <bdale> Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2008/2008-12-17.html
20:05:48 <Hydroxide> bbiab therefore. my report is in the agenda.
20:06:05 <bdale> [item 2, Roll Call]
20:06:05 <bdale> Board members, please state your name for the record. As we have nine board members, quorum for today's meeting is six.
20:06:05 <bdale> Guests (including board advisors), please /msg your names to Hydroxide if you wish your attendance to be recorded in the minutes of this meeting.
20:06:14 <Ganneff> Joerg Jaspert
20:06:18 <bdale> Bdale Garbee
20:06:34 <bdale> I believe we have some regrets recorded... hope we make quorum.
20:06:47 * schultmc can be here if needed
20:07:09 * cdlu is here
20:07:16 <cdlu> David Graham
20:07:40 <cdlu> not encouraging
20:07:48 <Ganneff> luk_, zobel: ping
20:08:18 <luk_> Luk Claes
20:08:42 <bdale> I believe quorum is 6, so we're still short
20:08:47 <Ganneff> ay
20:08:57 <schultmc> linuxpoet was around earlier
20:09:00 <Ganneff> give them 5 more mins, then drop out for this time?
20:09:06 <schultmc> if we get a 5th I can be 6
20:09:18 <cdlu> and then defer until after the holidays... I think even this might be too close for people
20:09:20 <bdale> I'd suggest we wait until :15 to give up
20:09:28 * cdlu agrees
20:09:34 * luk_ too
20:09:52 <bdale> if any of you have contact info for others not present, feel free to use it to poke them
20:10:04 <zobel> re
20:10:14 <zobel> Martin Zobel-Helas
20:10:17 <cdlu> 5
20:10:19 <xzilla> i can call linuxpoet if yall want
20:10:21 <zobel> sorry for being late
20:10:22 <schultmc> Michael Schultheiss
20:10:25 <cdlu> quorum
20:10:27 <bdale> ok, thanks, that's 6
20:10:41 <bdale> [item 3, President's Report]
20:10:41 <bdale> None.
20:10:41 <bdale> [item 4, Treasurer's Report]
20:10:41 <bdale> Michael?
20:11:05 <schultmc> a treasurer's report covering November 2008 was mailed out on Monday
20:11:21 <schultmc> there's been some suggestions for improvements that I'm considering
20:11:30 <schultmc> </done>
20:11:38 <cdlu> it's attached to the agenda if anyone's looking for it
20:12:05 <bdale> yep, thanks
20:12:19 <bdale> [item 5, Secretary's report]
20:12:19 <bdale> Jimmy?
20:12:24 <bdale> I think he stepped away?
20:12:27 <Ganneff> in case he is away
20:12:35 <Ganneff> he has something in the agenda, lets paste
20:12:35 <cdlu> he is away and did not register his attendance
20:12:40 <Ganneff> I am in the process of arranging an online meeting for this upcoming weekend (Dec 20th or 21st)
20:12:40 <Ganneff> including SPI site administrator Joerg Jaspert, website volunteer MJ Ray, and me to discuss plans
20:12:40 <Ganneff> for moving forward with the website overhaul. There should be more news on this front in time for
20:12:41 <Ganneff> the January secretary's report.
20:12:58 <bdale> Ganneff: thanks. anything to add about progress on the meeting?
20:13:02 <Ganneff> thats the most important part and should be mentioned, i think :)
20:13:09 <Ganneff> nothing yet, no.
20:13:11 <bdale> ok
20:13:24 <bdale> if Jimmy comes back and wants to add something, we'll handle it then
20:13:35 <bdale> [item 6, Outstanding minutes]
20:13:37 <bdale> hrm
20:13:42 <bdale> it appears we have a couple ready for vote
20:13:55 <bdale> can I have a volunteer to run the voting process in Jimmy's absence?
20:14:04 <Ganneff> oi.
20:14:05 <Ganneff> sec
20:14:17 <Ganneff> lets see if i can still run my own vote script
20:14:25 <Ganneff> give me a minute
20:14:37 <cdlu> heh
20:14:54 <cdlu> bdale, I'll need to vote separately on the two sets fyi
20:15:06 <bdale> no worries, I intend to call a vote per
20:15:15 <cdlu> ok
20:16:32 <cdlu> hydroxide, when you see this in backlog, I want to point out that I introduced the appendix on board membership to the minutes for the purpose of always having a running record of when board members would be up for re-election. It's a neat piece of information to have when we first joined, but an 'up for election on (date)' field would be good, too.
20:17:24 * bdale whistles to himself and taps his fingers...
20:17:39 <Ganneff> hrm. bah. obviously i cant. meh. lets do it manually.
20:17:43 <bdale> ok
20:17:51 * cdlu moves the appropriate motion
20:17:54 <cdlu> first set of minutes moved
20:17:56 <bdale> I hope everyone took advantage of that time to read anything they hadn't already read!
20:18:16 <bdale> that would be Oct 15 2008, right?
20:18:17 <Ganneff> October 15th, 2008 then.
20:18:31 <bdale> seconded, let's vote
20:18:32 <cdlu> yes
20:18:41 <cdlu> vote: yes
20:18:44 <schultmc> !vote yes
20:18:47 <Ganneff> !vote abstain
20:18:48 <cdlu> oh right
20:18:49 <cdlu> !vote yes
20:18:50 <bdale> !vote: yes
20:18:51 <zobel> !vote yes
20:18:57 <cdlu> 4 yes 1 abstain 1 missing
20:19:10 <bdale> who didn't vote?
20:19:13 <bdale> luk
20:19:18 <luk_> !vote yes
20:19:21 <bdale> thanks
20:19:21 <Ganneff> yay.
20:19:23 <Ganneff> November 19th, 2008 then
20:19:31 <cdlu> oct 15 yes: 5, no: 0, abstain: 1. passes
20:19:36 * cdlu seconds nov 19
20:19:44 <slef> Voting for "Approve minutes for October 15th, 2008" closed: yes 5, no 0, abstain 1
20:19:44 <bdale> moved and seconded, let's vote
20:19:49 <cdlu> !vote abstain
20:19:52 <schultmc> !vote yes
20:19:53 <bdale> !vote yes
20:19:55 <zobel> !vote yes
20:19:58 <Ganneff> !vote yes
20:20:11 <luk_> !vote yes
20:20:13 <cdlu> yes: 5, no: 0, abstain: 1. passes
20:20:13 <slef> Voting for "Approve minutes for November 19th, 2008" closed: yes 5, no 0, abstain 1
20:20:19 <bdale> cool, thanks all
20:20:31 <bdale> [item 7, Items up for discussion]
20:20:31 <bdale> [item 7.1, Resolution 2008.12.17.bg.1 - Privoxy as associated project]
20:20:38 <bdale> My apologies to the board for being late getting the text to our secretary. If any
20:20:38 <bdale> board member present today objects to voting on this resolution today, we will wait
20:20:38 <bdale> until our next meeting. However, this was discussed on the lists and got unanimous
20:20:38 <bdale> support, and mentioned in my report at our last meeting, so if everyone is willing
20:20:39 <bdale> to vote on it today I'd like to proceed. Any objections?
20:21:18 <Ganneff> none from me.
20:21:26 <zobel> none from me either
20:21:41 <bdale> any further discussion, or would someone like to move we vote on it?
20:22:00 <luk_> where can I find a member list or something similar?
20:22:01 <Ganneff> lets vote
20:22:08 <bdale> luk_: of what?
20:22:14 <luk_> of Privoxy
20:22:23 <cdlu> bdale, I did not see their request to join that I can recall
20:22:43 <cdlu> oh, there it is, back in august
20:22:52 <cdlu> before the election, my tape ran out
20:22:52 <bdale> cdlu: right, this has been going on a while
20:22:58 <bdale> my fault, actually
20:23:20 <luk_> is someone from privoxy in the channel btw?
20:23:22 <cdlu> ya, I can vote on it
20:23:25 <bdale> luk_: I think the three folks listed in the resolution are the three primary commiters
20:23:28 <zobel> it might happen, that i will be unresponsive the next 3min. pia crawling through the flat and me being alon with ghere ATM.
20:24:16 <bdale> luk_: privoxy.org is the web site for the project, I believe
20:24:22 <luk_> ah, apparently http://www.privoxy.org/user-manual/copyright.html has a list of the current privoxy team
20:24:41 <bdale> any surprises?
20:25:31 <luk_> I didn't know RoRo was involved :-)
20:25:36 * cdlu doesn't know any of them, but that's not a surprise :)
20:25:37 <zobel> RoRo
20:25:43 <bdale> ok, we have a motion from Ganneff to vote... second?
20:25:47 <cdlu> seconded
20:26:00 <bdale> ok, let's vote then
20:26:04 <cdlu> !vote yes
20:26:07 <Ganneff> !vote yes
20:26:09 <bdale> !vote yes
20:26:09 <luk_> !vote yes
20:26:09 <schultmc> !vote yes
20:26:18 <zobel> !vote yes
20:26:23 <cdlu> privoxy: yes: 6, no: 0, abstain: 0, missing: 0
20:26:26 <bdale> great, thanks all!
20:26:38 <zobel> brb
20:26:42 <bdale> I'll sync with Hydroxide regarding which one of us should send them the invitation letter
20:26:54 <bdale> Do any board members have other items for discussion they would like to address briefly?
20:27:17 <zobel> bdale: seen my query?
20:27:23 <Ganneff> just the short notice that SPI now owns the madwifi domains
20:27:26 * schultmc has something
20:27:26 <cdlu> as of Monday I'm no longer with Sourceforge, so if anyone needs me to work for them, I'm available. :)
20:27:28 <cdlu> other than that, no
20:27:32 <Ganneff> today all got transferred to us
20:27:39 <bdale> zobel: yes. I don't think it matters who prepares the minutes.
20:27:55 <bdale> Ganneff: ok, thanks
20:28:07 <zobel> bdale: okay, then i will try to work on them during the XMAS holidays for the next meeting.
20:28:20 <bdale> zobel: that would be great
20:28:33 <bdale> for everyone else, zobel is offering to help catch us up on the un-voted minutes
20:28:44 <cdlu> cool, thanks zobel
20:28:49 <Ganneff> the maulkin ones. great
20:28:51 <bdale> [item 8, Next board meeting]
20:28:51 <bdale> I believe our default would be Wednesday 21st January, 2009 - 20:00 UTC?
20:28:55 * cdlu thinks secretaries should be banned from serving more than one year
20:28:58 <bdale> that will be while I am in Australia for LCA
20:29:03 <cdlu> since many secretaries have done great first year, and totally lost it after
20:29:12 <schultmc> bdale: I had one thing to note
20:29:18 <bdale> schultmc: ok
20:29:20 * schultmc was waiting to be called on
20:29:32 <schultmc> Tux4Kids has expressed interest in obtaining some trademarks
20:29:34 * cdlu cannot assure his attendance at US-eastern business hour meetings any further, depends on what new work I find.
20:29:43 <bdale> schultmc: sorry, I just missed it
20:29:54 <bdale> cdlu: noted
20:30:05 <schultmc> I (or someone else) needs to discuss this with our lawyers and keep the Tux4Kids representative up to date with the status
20:30:09 <bdale> schultmc: right, saw those emails
20:30:26 <bdale> schultmc: if you're willing to take the lead on that, great, if not, say so and we'll see if someone else is
20:30:43 <schultmc> I'm willing to take the lead
20:30:47 <Ganneff> hf
20:30:51 <bdale> ok, cool. let us know how it goes.
20:30:57 <schultmc> will do
20:31:06 <bdale> any other quick items before we get back to the next meeting date/time?
20:31:36 <bdale> ok
20:31:58 <bdale> I think I'm ok with the next date despite the fact that I'll be in Hobart for LCA then. anyone else have serious objections?
20:32:25 <Ganneff> other than what i had for today, no.
20:32:37 <bdale> ok, then let's go with that date and time
20:32:44 <bdale> Ok, thank you to everyone present for participating today.
20:32:44 <bdale> *GAVEL*

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