Re: Meetbot for SPI

Don Armstrong <don(at)donarmstrong(dot)com> wrote:
> It'd be enough for one interested member (board or otherwise) to stick
> a bot in and send the completed logs to -general (or provide a link to
> them.) This shouldn't require anyone's approval.

Will anyone who can attend the new meeting time of third Wednesday
19:00Z send a log/summary, then, please?

Will anyone who attended the last meeting send a log, please?

Will anyone who logged the anti-bot discussion post it, please?

Thanks,
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On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:18:32AM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> Don Armstrong <don(at)donarmstrong(dot)com> wrote:
> > It'd be enough for one interested member (board or otherwise) to stick
> > a bot in and send the completed logs to -general (or provide a link to
> > them.) This shouldn't require anyone's approval.
>
> Will anyone who can attend the new meeting time of third Wednesday
> 19:00Z send a log/summary, then, please?

Why not put a bot there yourself that only logs while meetings are
occurring and doesn't make noise, and then either emails those summaries
out to -general or allows you to do it after any necessary light
editing? (IMHO approved and maybe draft minutes but not logs should go
to -announce, but that's debatable.) That would seem to satisfy everyone
including Joerg. The bot can tell that a meeting is beginning by the
textual case-insensitive occurrence of "*gavel*" on a line by itself
around the official meeting start time and then by its reoccurrence at
the end of the meeting. I'll be glad to discuss any refinements of this
heuristic if that would help, as I'm sure would many others.

In related news, I've talked one-on-one with Neil about ways I can help,
and with some newly granted permissions relating to the website I'm
going to get the official public record of SPI's minutes/resolutions/etc
much more up to date within the upcoming days, as my schedule permits.

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
jimmy(at)spi-inc(dot)org

Jimmy Kaplowitz <jimmy(at)spi-inc(dot)org> wrote:
> Why not put a bot there yourself that only logs while meetings are
> occurring and doesn't make noise, and then either emails those summaries
> out to -general or allows you to do it after any necessary light
> editing?

Because Joerg seemed to threaten to kill any bots. If, as you report,
that's not the case, then fine.

A minor drawback is that I won't be around during most meetings to fix
any bot bugs, so the tried-and-tested meetbot would be better, but if
that's not an option, but bots are allowed, I've no problem running my
own.

[...]
> In related news, I've talked one-on-one with Neil about ways I can help,
> and with some newly granted permissions relating to the website I'm
> going to get the official public record of SPI's minutes/resolutions/etc
> much more up to date within the upcoming days, as my schedule permits.

Well, great to see one of the offers of help taken up. Keep us
informed when stuff appears, please!

Thanks,
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On 11248 March 1977, MJ Ray wrote:

> Because Joerg seemed to threaten to kill any bots. If, as you report,
> that's not the case, then fine.

I will kill any bot that is either adding unneccessary traffic (like
meetbot would) or publishes logs outside of meetings (unless there
is a resolution stating that we want that in #spi).

If the bot isnt doing that, but what Jimmy described, ie. only logging
meetings and not generating any noise - fine.

--
bye Joerg
<exa> Snow-Man: Please don't talk to me. You have demonstrated yourself
sufficiently. There is a serious matter being talked.
<Snow-Man> exa: It's hardly serious, it's about you.

Joerg Jaspert <joerg(at)debian(dot)org> wrote:
> On 11248 March 1977, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Because Joerg seemed to threaten to kill any bots. If, as you report,
> > that's not the case, then fine.
>
> I will kill any bot that is either adding unneccessary traffic (like
> meetbot would) [...]

What traffic does meetbot add? It looks like it just sits and
listens, unless it's editing itself out of the logs on
http://meetbot.debian.net/meetbot

If the above means 'people talking to the bot' then that's almost
unavoidable and an unreasonable condition IMO.

Happy New Year,
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