Re: Worst Case Scenarios - SPI and Lawsuits

In reply to a message I sent to spi-general last June.

* Subject: Re: Worst Case Scenarios - SPI and Lawsuits
* From: "Andrew Hagen" <xah(at)myrealbox(dot)com>
* Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 15:53:15 -0500
* In-Reply-To: <20010603162249(dot)K641(at)osiris(dot)978(dot)org>

In that message, I stated, I was a law student. I need to make it
absolutely, crystal clear that it was only my opinion as an ordinary
citizen.

For all legal advice, only lawyers are to be consulted. As a law
student, I am not a lawyer. Thus, what I had to say must not be taken
as legal advice to SPI or to anyone.

Here's what I said:

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I think any potentail legal probem would be manageable. I'm just a
law
student, and there aren't any suits filed against us, or even
threatened. Nevertheless, I'm confident that we could overcome
problems
with lawsuits.

All courts vigorously enforce rules against filing lawsuits that have
no basis in the law. Sometimes these lawsuits are called "frivolous."
Although we hear stories in the media about curiously themed
lawsuits,
those media reports often contain errors and half-truths. There has
to
be some legal justification for a lawsuit. Of course, a particular
law
that justifies litigation is sometimes questionable itself, as in the
case of the DMCA.

There are many strategies that we can take. First, we can call on the
community for help. Not only can community members help with
financial
donations, but they can also create public pressure that will be
invaluable. It is often cheaper and more effective to fight a legal
battle in the news media than in the courts.

Second, if we get sued we can bring other parties into the lawsuit.
In
particular, we can bring in entities that have money and might have
violated the same law or copyright we have. For example, corporations
like IBM or HP might have violated the same law, or hold an interest
that is at stake in the lawsuit. It's conceivable that in many
circumstances they will have to join in the defense against such a
lawsuit.

Third, even if we stand alone there are many lawyers who will give
their time in the form of pro bono service. Pro bono means no legal
fees.

Fourth, although we are only speculating here, we could possibly sue
the party that is suing us. That is, we could file a counterclaim.
There would have to be some legal basis for such a suit, of course.

We should be consulting with a competent lawyer, or lawyers, when
legal
issues are unclear and potentially important. That will avoid most of
the potential problems.

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Andrew Hagen
xah(at)myrealbox(dot)com

We should really revisit this thread at some point. As far as I can tell, no
steps have been taken yet to reduce the risk of reassignment of SPI's
copyrights, patents, trademarks, domains to a hostile 3rd party in the event
of bankrupcy.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 12:54:45AM -0500, Andrew Hagen wrote:
> In reply to a message I sent to spi-general last June.
>

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Brian Ristuccia
brian(at)ristuccia(dot)com
bristucc(at)cs(dot)uml(dot)edu

On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 01:38:33AM -0500, Brian Ristuccia wrote:
> We should really revisit this thread at some point. As far as I can tell, no
> steps have been taken yet to reduce the risk of reassignment of SPI's
> copyrights, patents, trademarks, domains to a hostile 3rd party in the event
> of bankrupcy.

You guys should talk to Chris Rourk about this. He is SPI's attorney.
Please carry out your discussion via board(at)spi-inc(dot)org so that the Board
can see it.

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