Donations of money: mission impossible

First, sorry my english, i'm not well writer or speaker.

Second; i live in europe, and i decide donate a little money to my
favourite project, debian, to help and to say "thanks". Going throught
web pages i finish in

http://www.spi-inc.org/donations#money

ok, reading terms i see:

"If you have a credit card issued by a financial institution in the
United States, you may use it to make an online donation to SPI via
Network for Good"

ok, im from spain, so i havent any "united states financial institution
card" ok, continuing reading i see

"*Donations in Europe* can be done through our partner in Germany, ffis
e.V. If you are interested in using their bank account (to save
international money transfer costs), please check the instructions for
donating to ffis e.V. <http://www.ffis.de/Verein/spi-en.html>."

Reading i need to make a bank transference to germany, (minimum cost 10
euro) and i need to go to my bank officce to make the international
tranference. Time and cost.

I think it will be easier make a direct credit card donation, paypal or
/and another more cheap and more easy donation sistem, specially to "the
rest of the world" (not USA citizens)

thanks for your time, sorry the inconvenience.

joseba writes ("Donations of money: mission impossible"):
> Reading i need to make a bank transference to germany, (minimum cost 10
> euro) and i need to go to my bank officce to make the international
> tranference. Time and cost.

My understanding was that EU rules require that a
euro-denominated between-eurozone-countries interbank transfer is
required to be no more expensive than a within-country transfer.

Does it normally cost you Eur10 to make a domestic money transfer ?

> I think it will be easier make a direct credit card donation, paypal or
> /and another more cheap and more easy donation sistem, specially to "the
> rest of the world" (not USA citizens)

Perhaps Steve McIntyre's debian-uk should get set up to accept credit
cards. Our banking system here is one of the most advanced in the
world, so only pretty badly demented, rather than completely fucked
like the American one or, it appears, the situation in Spain.

Ian.

On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 11:01:39AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> joseba writes ("Donations of money: mission impossible"):
> > Reading i need to make a bank transference to germany, (minimum cost 10
> > euro) and i need to go to my bank officce to make the international
> > tranference. Time and cost.
>
> My understanding was that EU rules require that a
> euro-denominated between-eurozone-countries interbank transfer is
> required to be no more expensive than a within-country transfer.

My experience is that it is free if you supply the IBAN, and expensive
if you do not.

Cheers,
Bill.

Ian Jackson wrote:

>
>
>>Reading i need to make a bank transference to germany, (minimum cost 10
>>euro) and i need to go to my bank officce to make the international
>>tranference. Time and cost.
>>
>>
>
>My understanding was that EU rules require that a
>euro-denominated between-eurozone-countries interbank transfer is
>required to be no more expensive than a within-country transfer.
>
>Does it normally cost you Eur10 to make a domestic money transfer ?
>
>
>
True, the cost is the same to local bank tranfer , minimun 7€, if i move
a lot of money is a little comission, but in 15€ is the half.

thinking in dontations, the cuantities alwais going to be little, so i
think is the way to make it must to be easy. Go to my bank office , wait
20 minutes, ask for a international tranfer, put the IBAN and other
data, pay 7€ to make a donation of (for example) 20€ is not simple .

>>I think it will be easier make a direct credit card donation, paypal or
>>/and another more cheap and more easy donation sistem, specially to "the
>>rest of the world" (not USA citizens)
>>
>>
>
>Perhaps Steve McIntyre's debian-uk should get set up to accept credit
>cards. Our banking system here is one of the most advanced in the
>world, so only pretty badly demented, rather than completely fucked
>like the American one or, it appears, the situation in Spain.
>
>
>
"spain is different"

But not only spain. Debian is used aroun the world , so ucranian, korean
or argentin user can not donate a little money to help his/her favourite
project.

Thanks .

On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 01:09:13PM +0200, joseba wrote:
> Ian Jackson wrote:
>
> True, the cost is the same to local bank tranfer , minimun 7?, if i move
> a lot of money is a little comission, but in 15? is the half.
>
> thinking in dontations, the cuantities alwais going to be little, so i
> think is the way to make it must to be easy. Go to my bank office , wait
> 20 minutes, ask for a international tranfer, put the IBAN and other
> data, pay 7? to make a donation of (for example) 20? is not simple .

Well, you can do it by fax instead of going to the bank, though that
does not adress the 7 euros flat fee. (Fortunately there is no such fee
in France).

Cheers,
Bill.