Re: Apple and Open Source

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From: bruce(at)hams(dot)com
To: bruce(at)hams(dot)com, jdassen(at)wi(dot)leidenuniv(dot)nl, spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org
Cc: rms(at)gnu(dot)org
Subject: Re: Apple and Open Source
Date: 1999-03-17 17:53:13
Message-ID: 19990317175313.890.qmail@hams.com
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> Agreed, but most likely that means SPI will have to take back opensource.org
> first. Bruce, you're the current administrative contact for opensource.org,
> which is registered on behalf of SPI under its old address; what's your take
> on this?

Given the amount of contention regarding the trademark, the easiest thing to
do would be to place it in the public domain and let it die of lost meaning.

Regarding the domains, before we do something as hostile as to take them
away, I'd make sure we all agreed about that and had discussed it throughly.

Thanks

Bruce


From: Tor Slettnes <tor(at)slett(dot)net>
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Cc: brady2(at)apple(dot)com, sheppard(at)apple(dot)com
Subject: Apple claims "Open Source" trademark
Date: 1999-03-17 20:24:54
Message-ID: 87emmnzwx5.fsf@tor.slett.net
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>>>>> "bruce" == bruce <bruce(at)hams(dot)com> writes:

bruce> Given the amount of contention regarding the trademark, the
bruce> easiest thing to do would be to place it in the public
bruce> domain and let it die of lost meaning.

If you read the press release,
http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CnU3LubWbu0zuvta4o&FQ=Linux&SymH

you will see towards the bottom:
"Open Source is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc."

Like it or not, but now may be neccessary to come up with some of the
documents regarding the trademark, how it was handled initially etc.
Not only for Eric "Shoot Bill, get famous" Raymond, but in actual
legal confronation with Apple.

-tor


From: "Marcelo E(dot) Magallon" <mmagallo(at)efis(dot)ucr(dot)ac(dot)cr>
To: Tor Slettnes <tor(at)slett(dot)net>
Cc: spi-general(at)lists(dot)spi-inc(dot)org, brady2(at)apple(dot)com, sheppard(at)apple(dot)com
Subject: Re: Apple claims "Open Source" trademark
Date: 1999-03-17 23:22:53
Message-ID: 19990317172253.A22393@efis.ucr.ac.cr
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[I'm keeping the Cc: to the Apple people]

On Wed, Mar 17, 1999 at 12:24:54PM -0800, Tor Slettnes wrote:

> If you read the press release,
> http://www.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=CnU3LubWbu0zuvta4o&FQ=Linux&SymH
>
> you will see towards the bottom:
> "Open Source is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc."

In good faith, I think that's a typo. It actually reads:

NOTE: Apple, the Apple logo, Macintosh, Mac OS, Power Macintosh and
WebObjects are registered trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc. Open Source
is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc.

I don't see a reason why "Apple Computer, Inc." should be mentioned twice.
It would be interesting to know what they intended to write there...
"Software in the Public Interest"? I hope.

Marcelo Magallon